World-Designs-Forum  

Go Back   World-Designs-Forum > WAD > WAD General
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Gallery Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

WAD General For discussions re World Audio Design

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 20th April 2024, 09:11 PM
Richard Richard is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Notts
Posts: 5,357
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Hi John, yes a valve tester is nice but quite expensive unless you think you'll be doing more valves in the future. Can you find someone locally who can check them? I can do them if you want to risk putting them on carriers, drop me a PM. It's time I had a sort out of my valve draw like Bob...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 21st April 2024, 12:46 PM
jdd308 jdd308 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maidenhead, UK
Posts: 43
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Thank you Richard,

I am looking in to the less expensive testers that can still do the slope as well, as it will be reassuring for me to be able to match remaining valves.

Plus you and Bob are lucky to have a 'valve drawer' - maybe I went overboard with valve rolling in the early days and ended up with a valve cupboard!

John
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 29th June 2024, 12:19 AM
Thenice Thenice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: London Brixton
Posts: 20
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Hello Richard
I was reading this with interest
As lve just seen a GE 6550A on ebay used for &70 it looks ok
With avo 163 tested on KT88 setting is 63 IA 7.5 av/slope
What do you think? Are the readings sound for the amp [allowing for the demon murphy]
Thanks
Frank
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 29th June 2024, 09:27 AM
John Caswell John Caswell is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 1,780
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Hi Frank,
This will of course depend on what the other valves left in your 6550 amp read.
As I said earlier on, ideally pairs should be matched but in practice this doesn't matter too much as long as they are close i.e. ±10%. Without access to a valve tester a good check is the cathode voltage. Even if the amp is fixed bias or a mix, as a lot of the WAD amps are, there as to be some method of adjustment/check and this usually relies on a cathode voltage measurement of some sort.
In the past I have repaired a good few amp that use 6C33C-b valves, which cannot be checked on an AVO MkIV, so generally use the cathode voltage method.

John
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 29th June 2024, 10:24 AM
Richard Richard is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Notts
Posts: 5,357
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Hi both, yes absolutely as John says.

The main drawback to testing in the amp (rather than with a tester) is that you need to fit the valves into your amp to be able to check and compare their current draw at idle – which would mean buying the valve first to check it.

With regard to the one on sale I also test 6550s using KT88 settings. Most are in the 50-60mA range, 70 is high and 40 is low. So the one on sale looks good but if your amp is Kit6550 it does run them quite hard.

If you get it check idle current (cathode voltage pin8 to ground, divided by cathode resistor ohms) and check for red plates in a dark room.

If all is well keep an ear out for any extra or rising level of hum during your first listening session as this is the audible sound of a valve going into runaway if it is badly matched with its pair
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 29th June 2024, 01:55 PM
Thenice Thenice is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: London Brixton
Posts: 20
Default Re: Valve matching with a KiT6550

Thanks everyone for replying and answering my question
Frank
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
valve matching


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright World Designs