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Old 30th December 2017, 07:33 PM
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Did anyone ever make these ? I rather fancy giving them a shot because I´m bored and these would seem to be within my reach, skill-wise. I have the WD25TExs and was wondering if their supposedly rather special in its day Millennium tweeter might preclude the use of such a supertweeter. I remember that Peter mentioned their use with the WD20s because of them being a co-axial design which might need a bit of a push in the upper frequencies and even then I seem to remember him saying some will love them, others won´t.
I guess I just need a shove to get my finger out because I use external crossovers, placed close to my amp and so will have to change my 4-core cable to 6 core . Might get a bit complicated.
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Old 30th December 2017, 11:57 PM
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I don’t know anyone who added them. The mounting which was basically a chiselled our block of oak was outrageously priced. I challenged Peter on this and he just shrugged his shoulders. I don’t think he sold any or actually had any made for sale. If you already have Millennium, I think you would be wasting your time and money. I am using Millennium and have no desire for super tweeters. If you do want to go that way, there are many alternatives that you would probably find more suitable.

Oh and also consider, I have no knowledge of Peter ever selling a WD20 kit (at the time I was a company employee although it never came to anything). Probably just a design for the mag that no-one or very few ever took up.
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Old 31st December 2017, 12:51 PM
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Hi Greg,
I myself built the WD20T with external crossovers because I already had the transparent Seas coaxial but I did buy the kit minus that. I also know another guy who uses them in the UK but I don´t think he lurks around here. Mine are on permanent loan to a mate who used to have Totem arros and he is very happy with them as his room is a bit too big for the Arros.
Back to the Supertweeters, I have no complaints with my WD25Ts (treble or bass) save that I would love more height to the imaging. I have no idea whether this is down to my room, my kit or my vinyls but lead singers are invariably 1 and a bit metre midgets.
Perhaps if I lie on the floor.......
In any case, it would be an exercise in carving and shaping a lump made with composite mdf blocks stuck together and then lacquered..

Does anyone think supertweeters can help with the imaging at all ?
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Old 31st December 2017, 02:08 PM
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Hello,
I don't know if this is any help but I use Townshend super-tweeters with my Tannoy D.Cs
What I would say they do for me is a general "opening out" of the midrange. They seem to just make everything just a little "smoother and clearer".
It is a fairly subtle effect but nice. I got mine for a good price (still expensive).
If you have the tweeters already, I would say build the crossover and just screw them to a bit of wood and try them. Putting a lot of effort into nice boxes only to find they don't really do anything for you would be a bit frustrating.

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Old 31st December 2017, 05:48 PM
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Hi Greg,

If you were ever feeling curious, you would be welcome to borrow my super-tweeters just to see (hear) for yourself.

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Old 31st December 2017, 09:40 PM
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Hey, Phil, that would be really great. Maybe we could arreange a session here when you are free? I’ve heard the subtle differences super tweeters make on other speakers so have an open mind. The bizarre thing is when you stick your ear next to a super tweeter, all you hear is hash. Actually I have a pair of TakeT Batpure that some find useful, even rave about. I tried them with my previous KLS3’s and it was one of those experiences where you would not know they were there until you disconnected them and then you immediately realised something was missing. I’ve not considered them since I’ve been using KLS3 Millennium, so I should give them a try. For those interested, the manufacturers link (Japan) is http://www.taket.jp/batpure/batpure.html
Here’s a review http://6moons.com/audioreviews/taket/2.html
Interesting forum thread here
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/3...eeter-findings

Phil, I’ll email you.

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Old 31st December 2017, 11:44 PM
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Hmm, just had a reread of that 6 Moons review and actually it’s not very helpful. You’ll get much more on the forums. There are several threads on AOS.Just search on TakeT Batpure. You will find them now readily available through eBay, but be aware that if you buy from Japan, they will take three weeks to arrive. I bought mine from this company in France http://www.ceresaudio.com/ceres_audio_005.htm Took just a couple of days to arrive and price was comparable.

Phil, you’ve got me thinking hard about this again
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Does anyone notice that supertweeters can give more height to imaging between speakers. Does anyone else with wd25ts wish lead singers weren’t all midgets ?
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Old 1st January 2018, 09:18 PM
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Does anyone notice that supertweeters can give more height to imaging between speakers. Does anyone else with wd25ts wish lead singers weren’t all midgets ?
Not sure what might be causing that effect. When I had a pair of 25T’s, I never noticed the affect you describe. Do you have a very high ceiling? I wonder if it is a room issue?
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Old 1st January 2018, 10:35 PM
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Who knows? 2.70 metres is not especially high, I don’t think. Maybe I’ll dig my Mana floorstand stands out of retirement to emulate the plinth I never fitted to my 25s.
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