5687 replacement tube.

[bob orbell]

Hi all, I am looking to replace two 5687 tubes for my WA88, also looking at 7044, E182CC and 6N6P as a substitute, the latter is way less price than the others, the E182CC is silly money, has anyone tried different tubes in their WA88 ? Bob

[Richard]

Hi Bob, I'm a bit late to this but did you get these sorted?

I used these in 3 amps;
WD88VA Push Pull - 2 valves as Phase splitter drivers,
WAD300B Stereo Push Pull - 1 valve as single drivers into TX phase splitters,
and Glasshouse 300B Single ended - 2 valves with paralleled sections as drivers.

I also tried 2 pairs of E182CC in place of 5687, but can't remeber which amp, and found them very bright so I'm not sure how equivalent they are. They were Mullard branded but of USA manufacture and the other pair I can't remember but NOS not new manufacture.

Personally I wouldn't use the Russians as they'll need the pin-outs rewiring and again I'm not sure how equivalent they are to 5687.

Looking through the draw I still have a pair of late Philips USA 5687 and a pair of earlier black GE, then singles of an RCA and a Jan GE 5687WB. The WAD 300B original stereo used just one and swapping different types into that didn't make much differnce to sound though all (TungSol GE RCA etc) were USA valves and I'm not sure they were made elsewhere.

[bob orbell]

Thanks for the reply Richard, I think I will stay with 5687, on ebay there are Philips ECG JAN for 25.00 each, might give them a try. The ones in my WA88 are the original and must be 20 plus years of use. Bob

[Richard]

Yes good decision I think, a couple of NOS 5687 will last a good while. Happy to test your old ones btw, just post them over. Be wary of un-tested used stock as some applications use just one section of these TT valves and one section may be worn out when the other is as-new

[bob orbell]

Thank you for that advise Richard, these are from a reputable seller, it is Langrex supply's under a different name, I tried Hot-Rox, but no stock. Bob

[Dave999]

I run 6N2P as an ECC 83 equivelent in a Phono 2 from time to time
using these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164535065...oAAOSwsFpaC3Up

(sellers confidence that they work in all amps is worrying they won't)

to reconfigure heaters for 6.3 volt they have an Ecc88 style heater set up

if the heater supply in your amp is the same, +6.3-0-6.3 you might be able to use them to run 6N6P

but check heater wireing and pin outs

i like the Russian valves seem to have added an extra octave of tuneful bass with a nice clear treble still evident

6n1p-EV makes for a nice ECC88 replacement in pre II higher heater current but seems to cause no issues with power supply

Dave

[bikerhifinut]

Bob, did you ever get to play with a pair of E182CC?
I came into a small supply of these recently and I'll happily bung you a couple in recognition of generous favours you've done me in the past.
They're Mullard branded, Dutch (Philips) manufacture. I'm not at all sure they were ever UK made but wouldnt swear to it.
Andy.

[bob orbell]

Hi Andy, I hope you are well, yes please, I would like to try them, I did replace the 5687 like for like but could not tell any difference, so a waste of money I will PM you my address unless you still have it, please let me know. Bob

[bikerhifinut]

Originally Posted by bob orbell

Hi Andy, I hope you are well, yes please, I would like to try them, I did replace the 5687 like for like but could not tell any difference, so a waste of money I will PM you my address unless you still have it, please let me know. Bob

I can't find your address Bob, I should have it somewhere but my filing system isnt the best!
I'm not totally surprised that replacing the 5687 didnt make any audible difference, I think signal valves generally last way longer thansom of uswould expect, and also the supplied JAN Phillips ones were probably amongst the better quality of manufacture. I have tried "national" branded USA manufacture, and I couldnt saythere was any discernible difference as well as the couple of GE US made ones I picked up a couple of years back at a swapmeet as I couldnt resist the price, knowing how expensive they are from the usual suppliers.
I'll not pass comment on the E182CC, they arent really an Audio valve but they do work in that application and I guess its up to you to decide on their merits or otherwise. They do look butch though with the big box anodes!
They'll say "Foreign Made" but I reckon they are the Dutch Jobs made by Mullards parent company in Eindhoven. I've never actually seen a E182CC made in either Blackburn or Mitcham so I wonder if they were ever UK made.

Regards

Andy

[bob orbell]

PM sent Andy. I think ? Bob