stand alone phono stage

[Greg.]

Hi Andrew et al,

To be reasonable, it needs to be central. I'd offer my place but Bristol would be a long way for everyone, and then you Northerners might not want to mix with 'soft southern sh*te' Somewhere in middle England would be good.

Best wishes,

Greg

[NickG]

Thats what I said, Yorkshire, the middle of the island.

Anyway, maybe Greg could be a good location, may tempt a few from the Wales end of the family...

Anyhow, I have just bought 12 E810F's so thats the start of the fun for this year :-)

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by NickG

Anyhow, I have just bought 12 E810F's so thats the start of the fun for this year :-)

Hmmm...I've got eight E180F's lying aroung so you'll have to let me know how you get on with its 'bigger brother'.

PS. What's the plan on the PSU front - in the end?

cheers,

-- Andrew

[NickG]

I was going to start with TL's power supply, loads of chokes and caps, and if that doesn't cope with the **** mains I have, I was thinking of a SS regulator after the first choke, then two or three more chokes after it.

[llantech]

As an ancient Vinyl freak who has only just begun updating his Hi Fi system in the last year I have a silly question.

When did it become neccesary to have a phono stage and why ?.
My ancient Quad system didnt have one (as a seperate that is ). Circa 1970's HI Fi systems didnt need them and we didnt even think we would need em, No one in any Magazine of the time was even talking about them.

Just wondering

[NealG]

Its always been necessary since the introduction of the microgroove LP AFAIK. Your Quad may have the stage inbuilt. HiFi systems around the 1970's had phono stages, they where inbuilt or integral to the amp. My mum has one! As vinyl declined during the late eighties and early nineties manufacturers removed phono stages from their amps. This allowed specialist external phono stages to flourish. Today some manufacturers are putting phono stages back into their kit but there is still a healthy market for a stand alone stage as, on the whole, they sound way better than an integral one

[Clive]

Originally Posted by llantech

As an ancient Vinyl freak who has only just begun updating his Hi Fi system in the last year I have a silly question.

When did it become neccesary to have a phono stage and why ?.
My ancient Quad system didnt have one (as a seperate that is ). Circa 1970's HI Fi systems didnt need them and we didnt even think we would need em, No one in any Magazine of the time was even talking about them.

Just wondering

Your Quad did have a phono stage, it just that it was directly coupled to the preamp (linestage) and used a shared power supply. What happned was CD. When most people converted to CD there was no need for the phono stage with RIAA correction so the preamp became a simple stage with a relatively high level input. So anyone with a record deck needed a seperate phono stage.

[llantech]

Thnx for the info

Im beginning to get realy hooked on all this so be prepared for more Silly erm elementary questions That is if I cant find answeres in current magazines

By the way thanks Peter for creating this site, it has cheered me up after i discovered WAD had ceased trading

[lt_texan]

how abut a different design approach from the wad phonoII. I've read (not heard) that a phono stage with a first stage with muscle makes a difference. I know a 417a here would not be commercially viable(?), but how about something with some current? Or how about a cascode for the first stage?

[Martin213]

I'm voting yes ( It's a no-brainer really )